Friday, September 17, 2010

Police questionnaire not voluntary or confidential: nedkelly

Carenne Special School klansmen turned whistleblower, nedkelly has told Carenne Gate that the police questionnaire that staff are being asked to complete is anything but voluntary or confidential due to the actions of Carenne principal Neil Moon.

Nedkelly, one of the targets of the Police in the questionnaire claims that Neil Moon went from class to class today, badgering staff for their questionnaire, saying that he knew who had returned them and who hadn't. She alleges that Neil Moon told her that he would be forwarding a list of names of people who didn't complete the survey to Peter Harvey so that action could be taken against them. Nedkelly also says that Neil Moon told her that anyone who didn't complete the form or who refused to give permission for the Police to examine their computers would be suspects.

In the covering letter for the questionnaire, Detective Senior Constable Steve Innes states that "Your participation in completing the questionnaire is completely voluntary and all information will remain confidential." Neil Moon's actions show that this is not correct, at least on his part.

According to Nedkelly -
"Every return envelope is numbered and there is a list of who took which envelope, Neil knows exactly who returns them and who doesn't and when he comes around to your class while you are working, demanding it and threatening them if he is told that they were thinking of not returning it, it's so obvious that it isn't confidential. He knows who is handing them back and who isn't."
Nedkelly told Carenne Gate that she was concerned that Neil Moon told staff what he wanted written on the form. "He told us that we should write all the same people on the form so that they can be blamed, he said that he wanted to make sure the attention was on a few former employees, a few parents and a couple of problematic 'current' staff."

Unions have advised staff not to complete the questionnaire, however staff are concerned about their jobs and being hassled by Police and many have not followed their union's advice.

Staff claim that they are were bullied and harassed by Neil Moon about completing the form and what to put on it.

123 comments:

Anonymous said...

If anyone has a copy of questionnaire still can they forward a copy to Julie or Joel.

Anonymous said...

Mr Moon wants to be careful who he is blaming he might find himself facing the beck again !!!

Anonymous said...

nedkelly send joel a copy of the Questionaire or ain't you game whistleblower ???

Anonymous said...

Someone wants to send a copy of it to Malcolmn Barnett.

Anonymous said...

I see Michael Auld is looking at ripping off the Bathurst community on 25.9.10 with Kids Day Out. All funds raised go to RDA, probably so they can get some public liability insurance.

Anonymous said...

Terry Mahony would not have allowed this questionnaire to have been handed out, he wouldn't have placed undue stress on staff. He always put the needs of his staff first. Then again, when Terry was principal there was no blog was there?

Anonymous said...

moon is stupid the main person posting abuse and lies on this blog is his deputy principal lee churches.

Barracus said...

Moon told me to write that carennetruth is Churches, Seymour is Jenny O'Neill and Libertarian is Nathan Carter.

Barracus said...

September 17, 2010 7:10 PM
Piss of Terry, you made this mess

Anonymous said...

Who had the guts to stand up to Moon today when he came and badgered them in class?

nedkelly said...

September 17, 2010 8:33 PM
I reported it to the fucking union, the cunt can get fucked for all I care, I am sick of his bullshit. He is a pathetic principal and anyone would be better than him.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 8:36 PM
I can't believe how bad the school has gotten and the principal takes part in the abuse! He is the one who said to sit on Anthony and the one who says to lock him in the storeroom

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 8:46 PM
It's just because Ros Luther and Di Klavins are useless and have no idea what they are doing

nedkelly said...

September 17, 2010 8:46 PM
Neil Moon is just Lee and Simone's lapdog. They run the school and that's why it is fucked.

Anonymous said...

Marg, did you know that Neil Moon wants you to go down for this blog too?

carennetruth said...

Justine has done nothing so far, what makes any of you think she is going to do anything now? All she has done is leak information to the other side and vice versa. If you are hoping she can take this dreadful website down you are kidding yourself.

carennetruth said...

September 17, 2010 10:01 PM
Moon is an incompetent fool who should be sacked. He needs to be shown the door. He has ran Carenne further into the ground. In just two years it has gone from the shining light of special education to the dregs of the system and its all because of poor leadership from imbeciles like Duncan, Neal and Moon.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 9:49 PM
Is that why the KLAN is trying to get Simone to get the dirt on him like they did to Duncan?

Everyone saw the sheet Simone passed around.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:05 PM
It's not just the principal to blame, its the school executive who leads the school so the poor management is also your fault Lee. You are supposed to be an assistant principal.

nedkelly said...

September 17, 2010 10:07 PM
Fuck off Neil we are sick of listening to your "I'm a delegator" bullshit. You are a gutless worm.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter who you put at the head the neck will always tell it where to turn!!!

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:05 PM
Run into the ground by the Klan with the help of Carenne Support and Porter don't you mean?

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:14 PM
Exactly. The school is so rotten and malignant nothing short of wiping the staff clean and starting again can save it.

carennetruth said...

September 17, 2010 10:23 PM
If it wasn't for Carenne Support the school would have no buses and no therapy service. Get a grip idiot.

Anonymous said...

All Carenne Support is is some little scam to give Porter a squishy job and so that Geoff can get free therapy for his son.

Carenne Support doesn't give therapy to non-Carenne students, what's the bet when Salmon's son leaves they start.

Anonymous said...

So much for a stroke Lee you old liar

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:32 PM
She needs to go to the funny farm, she's a nutter

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:28 PM
Bullshit Carenne support stops real therapy services by claiming they do it but they dont!!

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:38 PM
Carenne is just a school for child molesters and crazies.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:41 PM
That's right, they told everyone that they would provide an outreach service to anyone who needed it in the Bathurst community so they could get funds that were allocated to the Spastic Centre in Orange and didn't do it.

That's why Nick Packham withdrew DADHC funding, because Porter is a liar and a cheat.

Anonymous said...

We know of two children who went backwards because of Carenne Support, how many more is there?

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:51 PM
Were they molested too?

Anonymous said...

With the money that the RDA and Carenne Support have wasted over the last few years the kids should have a full time Physio and a gold plated hydrotherapy pool!!

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:55 PM
Carenne is visited by a perfectly good physio who works for GWAHS but can't stand the bullshit she has to put up with from Porter. If the rest of these bastards would stay out of the way and stop interfering there wouldn't be a problem.

Marion blew the whistle on Mitchell Allan, and she was ignored by Porter and Duncan.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 11:01 PM
I agree with you Marion is great at what she does very professional and would be a great asset to have at Carenne school full time.

Anonymous said...

September 17,2010
carennetruth 10:28 PM

If it wasn't for the "BATHURST PEOPLE"there be no Buses "CARENNE SUPPORT"Stole the buses and should be charged with "FRAUD".

Anonymous said...

September 17,2010
Lee Churches Posted Under carennetruth and anonymous at

10:01 PM
10:03 PM
10:05 PM
10:28 PM.

Anonymous said...

How can anybody possibly believe the Bathurst Police are going to do a proper job on Carenne? Erin Lloyd gave sworn evidence showing she covered up Blackburn and Withyman:
194. The police officer asked if there was a history and specifically posed the question: "Have you guys been in an intimate relationship?". Ms Blackburn replied that the relationship had been "just physical" (T 950.10). Senior Constable Lloyd later accepted that Ms Blackburn had denied an intimate relationship and did not qualify or withdraw the denial in the course of the evening (T 958.38).


195. The officer also said that Ms Blackburn had stated:


"A. And that's when she said words similar to "Yeah, I know about the ethics of it, things just happened" or "Yeah, I know about the ethics of it, but it just happened". Something like that." (T 950.26)


Ms Blackburn went on to say that it had ended the evening before but Mr Withyman had not wanted it to be over and an argument had ensued. Ms Blackburn said that she wanted him to leave her alone. She also added that she was anxious for the police to locate him because he had said he would hurt himself.


196. Following this conversation the police officers went to look for the plaintiff and after some five minutes came to Ms Blackburn’s home. They had spoken to the plaintiff’s parents at Mrs Buscombe’s house and saw them again when they arrived at the second defendant’s house. They found the plaintiff in a hysterical state, yelling, screaming and crying. He was struggling with his father and his shirt was off. He was "red as a beetroot". He said that he wanted to speak to Ms Blackburn to apologise for "last night". Ms Blackburn agreed to speak to the plaintiff. This occurred upstairs and mostly in the presence of the police officers. The conversation lasted about 20 to 30 minutes during which Ms Blackburn was observed to be emotional and the plaintiff to be both emotional and aggressive at times.


197. Senior Constable Lloyd said she overheard some of the conversation, which was to this effect. The plaintiff was apologising and saying that he did not want it to be over. Ms Blackburn replied: "I know, I love you too but it's finished, you can't come here anymore, I can't see you anymore." (T 953.32). This was repeated on a number of occasions. Senior Constable Lloyd said her ears pricked up when she heard the plaintiff say: "And what about the head job, doesn't that - you know, have you forgotten about that - that was good times" (T 954.10). Ms Blackburn was then said to reply: "Yes David they were good times, but there's going to be - that's got to stop".

Anonymous said...

How can anybody possibly believe the Bathurst Police are going to do a proper job on Carenne when Erin Lloyd covered up Blackburn and Withyman:
194. The police officer asked if there was a history and specifically posed the question: "Have you guys been in an intimate relationship?". Ms Blackburn replied that the relationship had been "just physical" (T 950.10). Senior Constable Lloyd later accepted that Ms Blackburn had denied an intimate relationship and did not qualify or withdraw the denial in the course of the evening (T 958.38).


195. The officer also said that Ms Blackburn had stated:


"A. And that's when she said words similar to "Yeah, I know about the ethics of it, things just happened" or "Yeah, I know about the ethics of it, but it just happened". Something like that." (T 950.26)


Ms Blackburn went on to say that it had ended the evening before but Mr Withyman had not wanted it to be over and an argument had ensued. Ms Blackburn said that she wanted him to leave her alone. She also added that she was anxious for the police to locate him because he had said he would hurt himself.


196. Following this conversation the police officers went to look for the plaintiff and after some five minutes came to Ms Blackburn’s home. They had spoken to the plaintiff’s parents at Mrs Buscombe’s house and saw them again when they arrived at the second defendant’s house. They found the plaintiff in a hysterical state, yelling, screaming and crying. He was struggling with his father and his shirt was off. He was "red as a beetroot". He said that he wanted to speak to Ms Blackburn to apologise for "last night". Ms Blackburn agreed to speak to the plaintiff. This occurred upstairs and mostly in the presence of the police officers. The conversation lasted about 20 to 30 minutes during which Ms Blackburn was observed to be emotional and the plaintiff to be both emotional and aggressive at times.


197. Senior Constable Lloyd said she overheard some of the conversation, which was to this effect. The plaintiff was apologising and saying that he did not want it to be over. Ms Blackburn replied: "I know, I love you too but it's finished, you can't come here anymore, I can't see you anymore." (T 953.32). This was repeated on a number of occasions. Senior Constable Lloyd said her ears pricked up when she heard the plaintiff say: "And what about the head job, doesn't that - you know, have you forgotten about that - that was good times" (T 954.10). Ms Blackburn was then said to reply: "Yes David they were good times, but there's going to be - that's got to stop".

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 6:35 AM
Yes but the fabulous Bathurst detectives would rather illegally hassle us whistleblowers who use this site to get the message out than to do something about child abuse, fraud, corruption and more at Carenne Public School.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 11:10 PM
Yes but she is despised by Carenne because she is a "snitch"

Anonymous said...

lee churches and all klan members do the right thing by the children of carenne and the bathurst community and just resign and await your court cases.

Before the schools reputation is truly screwed, because of a few power trippers.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:28 AM
Carenne school is truly screwed and you can thank lee churches ,michael auld,neil moon and the klan it needs closing down.

Anonymous said...

what are bathurst police going to charge people for posting on a web site if this is the case lee churches ,margaret rowe ,simone russell ,michael auld will be the first one's charged what a joke these people are and call themselves school teacher and police officers "LAUGHABLE"

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 9:40 AM

got to have FAITH in someone doing something about the klan, this cant go on forever, for the childrens sake. cant be a fun learning enviroment at carenne with all the bitching going on.

Anonymous said...

lee did you fill your questionnaire out honestly ???????????????????????

What a joke, of course not.

Anonymous said...

did anyone fill their questionnaire out honestly, like telling the truth is hard.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10:31 AM
no they would not have moon want's his staff to blame carter's,oneill,he wants to be careful it will backfire on him,he must be a fruit cake like churche's and auld.he needs reporting to malcolmn barnett.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell us who the parents are that Moon wants to blame??

Anonymous said...

I have done nothing wrong only to try and protect these innocent students who can't defend for themselves.

Jennifer O'Neill said...

I have done nothing wrong only to try and protect these innocent students who can't defend for themselves.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:35 AM
nedkelly knows who the parents names are who moon is blaming.

Anonymous said...

its good of them to blame others for their corrupt and abusive ways good on them.

nedkelly said...

September 18, 2010 11:35 AM
Shane French and Trudy Nitschkie

nedkelly said...

Everyone on this site needs to go and get some legal advice. I went to one of the free legal clinics today and was told that the Police are overstepping the mark and cant do anything about the blog because it isnt illegal. The solicitor I saw told me it was a civil matter and that I can be sued for defamation but there is nothing criminal about it.

The solicitor said to make a complaint to the Police Integrity Commission about these clowns wasting resources on something that isn't illegal. They said that if they want to make genuine inquiries into allegations of sex abuse and the other shit that goes on at Carenne they already have the information to do so. They are just threatening people to cover up for Scott.

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 12:10 PM
That is why you had to go Jenny, you dared to question what happens at Carenne.

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 7:47 PM
Of course they are, even with information that he went into McDonalds and badgered staff last October claiming he needed the CCTV tapes as evidence to find out who took a photo of the plaque that was in there, the Police have done nothing.

That plaque, which is valuable evidence against Carenne Support has now disappeared, is it in Walgett with the sarge?

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 7:44 PM
Ned add one more family to that and you have Lees hit list of family's.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:27 PM
Who is the other family on lee's hit list ?

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 8:56 PM
There was Shane french,Trudy Nitschkie and Kym Northey.

Anonymous said...

Lee Churches needs sacking now.

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 9:11 PM
The only person who would argue with that is Lee!!

Anonymous said...

this questionaire needs reporting to the nsw ombudsman along with moon.

Anonymous said...

What right has neill moon got to accuse parents of anything ,they pay his wages the fool.

Anonymous said...

Neil Moon is a dreadful man who wants the 'snitches' gone so he can lock more kids in storerooms like the 'tranquility rooms' in Ros and Nadine's classes.

Anonymous said...

I was told that Anthony masturbates in the storeroom and Ros and Di watch him on camera. It's like Luke who they let masturbate in class in front of other students while they watch.

Ros and Di have a thing about watching teenaged boys masturbating. Just remember, Luther shared a class with Blackburn. I'm sure she knew about David and did nothing apart from watch.

Stool Pigeon said...

Teachers at Carenne cover up students raping other students when their parents are one of the select few who MUST be looked after and the sexual relationship between Tiffany and Baskerville.

Anonymous said...

Stool Pigeon 6:11 AM
yes mary housler is 1 of the select parents.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 6:07 AM
Yes Ros Luther did know blackburn was sleeping with david along with the rest of the teachers at carenne.

Anonymous said...

The police are overstepping the bounds by asking if you give permission to examine your computer for evidence of accessing the blog. Everyone at Carenne does it.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 8:04 AM

dont blog you have been told not too,
dont abuse anyone on the blog and you have nothing to hide, true ?????

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 5:55 AM

neil needs to get a grip and resign and take the whole executive staff with him.

Anonymous said...

September 18, 2010 9:27 PM

so does anyone involved in the abuse of innocent children at carenne.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:04 AM
lee churches is the ring leader of naming and abuseing students and parents on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:28 AM
Don't worry they have been.

Anonymous said...

ring leader may be, what about her lap dogs, all need sacking, any teacher involved in any form of abuse should be sacked on the spot, they are in a position of trust. wouldnt trust anyone at carenne with one of the childs lolly pops.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:55 AM
do they lock stuart and will in nadines tranquility room.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:34 AM
This is right the whole staff need sacking along with carenne support and christine porter.Lee Churches has stacked this school with what staff she can keep a leash on and gag them.

Anonymous said...

the children of carenne have enough difficulties with everyday life without fuckwits like neil and lee and auld making life worse for them at school. school is their time out and they have to face monsters like neil and lee and auld on a daily basis. I really, really, really feel sorry for these children not because of their learning difficulties but having to put up with abusive teachers on a daily basis. the teachers going whoa is me what about the children.

Anonymous said...

moon and his executive need replacing and start from scratch. how can the bathurst community respect carenne when they cant respect the staff.

Anonymous said...

lee "carennetruth" churches been quiet did justice finally catch up with her and shes been locked up for a couple of years. HOORAY !!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:55 AM
The students and parents can only wish !!!

Anonymous said...

Why hasn't the whistle blower "nedkelly" Margaret Rowe reported all this child abuse to Malcolmn Barnett in her real name instead of making out she a hero reporting it to libertarian.Your a loser "nedkelly" Margaret Rowe !!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

nedkelly is bad as rest of klan covering abuse and rapes of students up she is one of them

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 4:45 PM

Thats what worries me about information sent to this site, seems a bit klan orientated or should I say it seems like all the false reports lately have been sent by klan members.

Anonymous said...

Libertarian want to start to check his sources before it bites him in the ass.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:53 PM
Yes it is the klan members who are trying to bring Julie and Libertarian good work undone.nedkelly,hatho, carennetruth,seymour,omertra,jrosenberg are all members of the klan.

Anonymous said...

nedkelly send libertarian a copy of the questionaire seeing you know so much about it prove what you have told him is true whistleblower !!!!

Anonymous said...

Libertarian and Julie don't write story's unless they are backed up by evidence so what the fuck are you guys on about!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:48 PM
Where copy of questionaire then ?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:48 PM
We all know "nedkelly" is margaret rowe why would we trust her she right up the klans ass.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 6:02 PM
OH poor Lucy didn't you get one maybe they have caught on and your opinion doesn't matter because you only look after yourself!!

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 4:53 PM
What false reports are you referring to exactly?

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 5:47 PM

Please do. Should be interesting reading.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 8:52 AM
The problem is and has always been that staff bicker amongst themselves and then take it out on the kids. Any decent staff, like Kelly Thompson, Coleen Leis or Bev Masters are forced out because they do the right thing. You can always tell who is real about things, they get fucked over by the KLAN.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 8:34 AM
Baskerville would use the lollypops to pick up young children.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 8:21 AM
No the police are saying accessing is illegal now. They are saying it is illegal to read it and you can be charged. It's a load of hogwash!

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 8:24 AM
Neil Moon is an ineffective leader, let's see how well the school runs for this week and the first week back without that moron in charge.

The first thing the "fill-in" principal needs to do is tell auld he isn't to be at the school after hours.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:32 PM
What are they going to do, shoot us, what a load of bullshit.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 4:55 PM
A KLAN comment for sure

Anonymous said...

hope the fill in principal has nothing to do with carenne now.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 9:35 PM
That is why I went to get legal advice, the Police are in dangerous territory now. They are trying to stop people accessing the blog through intimidation. I have sent my questionnaire to Libertarian, I didn't return the waste of paper so hopefully he can post it here for me.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 9:37 PM
It is meant to be shared between the executive. I think they should bring in Linda Cormack again.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 9:37 PM
They should bring in Di Poole.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:43pm
Why don't you report the police to the pic if you think they are intimidating you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:47 PM
the school captain would do a better job then di poole.

Anonymous said...

Isnt Di the one who was snitching to Lee?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:54 PM
yes thats her di poole,sue sewell"teacher aide" sister,lee churches best pal.

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2010 9:54 PM

Yes you can guarantee if you complain in person to head office and di poole sees you then churches will know for sure.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:27 AM
It has happened to shane time and time again ,Who would set foot in the DET offices in george street bathurst,Nothing confidential there ,in person or on "FILE".

Anonymous said...

September 20, 2010 7:59 AM

Aint that the truth.

Mark Lindbert said...

Nothing in the department is confidential. It's the old hens club.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell us who the parents are that Moon wants to blame??

Anonymous said...

We know of two children who went backwards because of Carenne Support, how many more is there?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 8:27 PM
Who is the other family on lee's hit list ?

Anonymous said...

All Carenne Support is is some little scam to give Porter a squishy job and so that Geoff can get free therapy for his son.

Carenne Support doesn't give therapy to non-Carenne students, what's the bet when Salmon's son leaves they start.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:05 PM
Run into the ground by the Klan with the help of Carenne Support and Porter don't you mean?

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 10:05 PM
It's not just the principal to blame, its the school executive who leads the school so the poor management is also your fault Lee. You are supposed to be an assistant principal.

Anonymous said...

September 17, 2010 8:46 PM
It's just because Ros Luther and Di Klavins are useless and have no idea what they are doing

Anonymous said...

I have done nothing wrong only to try and protect these innocent students who can't defend for themselves.

Anonymous said...

moon is stupid the main person posting abuse and lies on this blog is his deputy principal lee churches.

Anonymous said...

Someone wants to send a copy of it to Malcolmn Barnett.

Anonymous said...

Mr Moon wants to be careful who he is blaming he might find himself facing the beck again !!!