Following inquiries surrounding Carenne Support's fundraising licence, it has been discovered that the Carenne Special School bus appeal in 2004 and 2005 may have been conducted unlawfully and without a licence.During my investigations I have discovered that Carenne Support first received a licence to conduct fundraising in NSW on April 3rd 2007, despite the bus appeal being carried out two years earlier. At the time of the bus appeal, the Bathurst community was led to believe that the buses (valued at some $130,000) were for Carenne Special School.
No mention was made at the Carenne Charity Ball in late 2004, which cricket legend Doug Walters attended, nor was it made at the handover of the buses in July 2005.
It has now been revealed that these buses, purchased for Carenne Special School are in fact owned by Carenne Support and one is used for a highly-profitable bus run. Even though donors were misled about the appeal being for the school and not the attached charity, Carenne Support did not hold a licence to conduct or benefit from the appeal at the time it was ran.
In addition to this, Communities NSW advised me today that Carenne Support's fundraising licence lapsed between April 2009 and Janaury 14 2010 as they had not re-applied. Any fundraising appeals conducted during this period are also illegal. You would think that a fundraising licence would be something of importance to a charity and it demonstrates the negligence of those involved in this organisation.
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Who happens to be a director of this organisation which is ripping off the school and the community - the infamous Lee "Carennetruth" Churches!
Even more concerning is Miss Churches being an assistant principal of Carenne when she is too negligent to ensure something as important as this is done.
yet something else these criminals cant get right. you cant believe a thing that they say...
So the highly-profitable bus run that carenne support run is obtained illegally.
It sounds like they can't do a single thing correct. It's about time they learned that they aren't GOD and can't keep ripping people off.
CHARGE THE LOT OF THEM WITH FRAUD
Carenne Support is only in it to benefit themselves. they stole these buses and every director should be charged and banned.
You people have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! This whole website is a joke. If you seriously had evidence or something real to say it you would take it to the relevant authorities rather than post on an insignificant website that is just spreading malicious slander about good people.
Come out in the open and say what you have to say...take it to the courts and see how far you get!!!!
Carenne Support Ltd was started to raise money to provide speech & occupational therapy services which government funding could not supply to our children. By purchasing the bus the company could obtain an income to pay for these services, which otherwise could not be obtained!
The directors of Carenne Support Ltd do NOT receive any remuneration at all, and all funds raised & income earned by the company can be accounted for.
I was involved with the recent audit of fundraising activities by the Department of Liquor & Gaming, and no issues were raised that indicated any wrongdoing by Carenne Support Ltd.
You should all just get a grip, get your facts straight and do not listen to certain people who obviously have a grudge against a wonderful school. My child happily attends Carenne School and I don't believe one word of the rubbish published on this site.
the government "would not "supply to the children not "could not". you are not related to peter harvey are you obviously your child is receiving therapy
Your children get therapy do they dumpling and sweary mary friend of carennetruth.
why do you assume that every student at carenne needs therapy - you do not know whqat you are talking about - just spreading malicious rumours and slander that are all lies anyway -this site is a lot of unfounded rubbish
Hi Anonymous at 7:13PM yesterday,
If my website is a joke, why do you feel the need to contribute to it? It seems a little odd that you would rubbish it yet still write here. It's much the same as Carennestrewth who was telling people how Sydney Indymedia and Carenne Gate are illegal websites and writing on them herself!
I will admit that sometimes the comments posted on my articles are not correct but people generally correct them.
I am out in the open, it seems you aren't. I use my real name, am quite well known and even Carennestrewth knows where I live (she posted on Indy). As for taking it to the courts, this is public political business. I have no intention of doing so. We are discussing this in the court of public opinion. You are free to send me any evidence you have should you like and I will be more than happy to place it here. As for authorities being contacted, how do you know if they have or have not? Just because the KLAN has a conduit to the Police, doesn't mean they have one to other organisations.
Unfortunately there are evidence of the claims. The evidence is posted right here. On 03.04.07 your organisation got a fundraising licence. That licence expired in 2009 (not shown on the document) but was not renewed until recently. In 2004-5 Carenne Special School ran a bus appeal which the Bathurst community believed was to benefit the school not your organisation. You clearly state here that it was the case that Carenne Support own the buses so that is not being disputed. In any case, you did not have (or appear to) a fundraising licence at the time of the bus appeal. This is possibly illegal.
The therapy you provide is no doubt appreciated by those who receive it. You are not being completely honest about there being no alternate services though are you? Wasn't the spastic centre going to receive funding to provide services in Bathurst? Didn't you say that your service would extend to more than Carenne?
How about the therapy that wasn't being done on a student who could walk at the beginning of 2009 and couldn't by the end of it. The teacher wrote in the student's book that it wasn't being done and magically to cover for someone this book disappeared!
As for none of your directors not being remunerated, that is not correct. Your "part-time CEO" who is also a director was remunerated was she not, wasn't this mentioned in a recent court judgment which can be found online?
Unfortunately the claims posted here have been supported with evidence but some of that was on
Sydney Indymedia. As for the Carenne Special School being a wonderful school all the evidence points otherwise - harassment of staff (one of who ended up in hospital because of the KLAN), bullying and attacks of a whistleblower and their family, missing documents, attempts to circumvent FOI, nepotism, leaking of information, threatening parents online, treatment of autistic students, money being siphoned off to other organisations and the list goes on.
Much the same as Mr Martin's comment to my colleague, I am confident the truth about the goings on at Carenne Special School will eventually come out.
It is correct that not every student at Carenne gets therapy, I think that has been established before. A number of parents have claimed that the therapy program is selective and priority is given to certain students over others. Two in particular have been led to believe that their children were getting therapy and were not. One of these parents claims that DADHC had provided funding for their child, is this correct?
how about staff being stalked by a certain teacher so he can see who is at whos house and then report back to the klan. are you one of the klan. the one lee is protecting
You are right Julie it was my mistake to even comment on this stupid site so I will not do it again....obviously you all have your agenda.
It is just a shame you can't use your "public political processes" to address real problems in the world and not slander a wonderful school, which I have been involved with for over 10 years. What is your connection with the school??? Do you have a child with a disability? Obviously not or you would not be trying to destroy the one place in Bathurst that can help families who do.
My name is Mary Housler and I am proud to be associateed with the school and the good people of
Carenne Support
Hi Mary,
It was not a mistake to comment on my website, I just found it curious as to why. I am glad to hear about your positive experience with Carenne Special School after hearing many of the horror stories.
I have no connection with the school and I do not have a child with a disability. I first became involved in Carenne Gate when I was contacted about the Education Minister Verity Firth misleading parliament about free legal services being provided to Carenne Support. From there it seems that the issues just kept coming from various sources. No doubt you have read my Carenne Special School staff speak out article, which generated a mass of interest on Sydney Indymedia - about four staff at Carenne who want to see positive change.
obviously cristine doesnt think carenne is so good the email michael circulated through school said different.
Isn't it funny that Michael was saying how people's emails were being hacked or the school was bugged and planted evidence to try and stitch someone up and it's him doing it all.
He needs to go.
What is your association with Carenne Mary?
What is the SMU doing about Michael Auld leaking information and threatening people to get his own way?
mary does finance for carenne support and has a student at carenne. shes a good person and hasnt been involved in support for long and is probably being duped
Tomorrow will be an interesting day at school. The Klan will be trying to reassert their authority under the new principal, we will all get reminded about confidentiality and told not to talk to the media and how Carenne needs to pull together in this difficult time.
Even though all this has been said, the Klan will continue their dirty tricks, Fraud will keep leaking information and Strewth will keep threatening people.
It will be interesting to walk into your classroom and see just what Fraud stole over the holidays.
perhapds mary you can tell us about the special deals made by your ceo with some supplier and how she plagirised the powered for participation day and lied on radio
and hear how mr fraud will make the school move ahead in strides this year even though nothing work and see marg write anonymous complaint letter about herself to get sympathy
This will be my final comment to address the issues that I have obviously stirred up.
Julie, My reason for commenting on the site was simply because I have been reading this in astonishment for some time and I just wanted to have my say. As I have said, my assiociation with the school is a long one, over 10 years my son has been attending, and it has been a beautiful place for kids with disabilities and their families. All the so called "trouble" and complaints appear to have started when your "whistle blower", no doubt Brian Carter, was dismissed from employment for breaching the employment guidelines.
It appears his full time job now is thinking up more stories and wild accusations against anyone involved or associated with Carenne School.... no doubt I will be next.
I can't see how this site is "public political business" .... most of the posts sound like 8 year olds using nicknames and "dibber dobbing", certainly not intelligent adults addressing real issues!
savecarenne - You obviously know me, and I must know you, so it is a pity you won't identify yourself. I happen to be an intelligent women and I am not being "duped" as you claim! You are right that I am the Bookkeeper for Carenne Support as well as being a parent. As bookkeeper I can verify that the books are in order, have been audited and lodged with ASIC...no problem. I have also recently received confirmation from the Department of Liquor & Gaming that the audit into the fundraising(instigated by a complaint) has been completed and they are satisfied that everything is in order.
Libertarian - I have known Michael Auld for many years and a kinder, more gentle man you would be hard pressed to meet, so for you to claim that he is capable of threatening to harm people, that is just absurd!
concerned parent - you claim "the parents" want Michael Auld gone? I challenge you to come up with a number! How many of them think this? I bet if a survey was taken you would come up very short!!! Michael taught my son for a couple of years so I know first hand the dedication he has to the students.
Michael has been the subject of numerous investigations in recent times, no doubt set in motion by people reading this forum, and has been cleared of any wrongdoing on all accounts!
ringostar - Carenne Support Ltd does no have a CEO!!! And businesses do deals with suppliers all the time, so I won't even comment on that. And if you want to accuse someone of plagiarism, at least learn how to spell it! I have no idea what you are referring to, but no doubt you will enighten us.
No doubt you will all be up in arms about my comments, but those who know me appreciate that I say things as I see it. I also have no doubt that I will be howled down and that accusations will fly at me and that I might be the next target for some sort of investigation. I also suspect that my computer might suddenly get a mysterious virus. So be it! It will only reinforce my suspicions that this site is just a vehicle for a vendetta against anyone associated with Carenne School and Carenne Support Ltd.
Mary Housler
mary everyone read the court judgement when julie brown posted it on sydney indymedia. obviously if there is no ceo then whoever went to court committed perjury. are you saying your representative lied?
this is the court case christine told everyone at carenne that carter had lost? i think it is on this site somewhere (maybe julie can point to it for me).
the klan blames everything on everyone else and wont take responsibility for what it has done. i can tell you as someone who works at carenne who is there day in day out (unlike you) that michael did in fact make the threats that libertarian has made on here. i heard them myself and know for a fact that peter harvey is aware of them! lynn even admitted in the paper that part of the trade training centre money ($3.7m) was going to rda. michael was on the ttc committee at carenne and the board of rda so tell me there is nothing fishy.
i along with others were given copies of documents michael fraud stole from the school WITH HIS HANDWRITING. i also have the email he circulated that christine wrote, he has done plenty wrong and is being protected by the klan.
your comments bring is to the same question about carenne support again is it a charity or a business? you claim its a charity and now on here claim its a business. what is it?
your posting wreaks of something written by the klan well done.
i will leave this comment at that as i would be here all night commenting further.
There is no point wasting your time on this site Mary, they are nothing but fucking snitches. They won't listen to what you have to say even though you are right.
This site is nothing but Brian Carter loving snitches and they will be weeded out this year and will end up in the dole queue. They will cry and whinge but at the end of the day their own actions determine their destiny. Brian Carter has done nothing but cause shit for Carenne and his rot will not be forgotten.
There is at least one mole at Carenne and we will find out who they all are. I already know with certainty who one is and notice that her activities on this site have stopped since I named her. It is certainly not Michael like this scum says it is. I believe it is someone not as close to the school as they like to make out.
As for the snitch who posted before me, what court case did Brian Carter win? Carenne Support was told he deserved to be fired, seems that you are the one who is going on with rot.
You have stopped know one posting on this site carennethruth, you are nothing but a loud mouth bully.
I doubt the numbers would come up short on Mr Auld, I know of several parents who don't want their children in his class.
What were these investigations? The parents have a right to know!
Mary Housler I Thought it was against det laws for you as a staff member to post on this media site ,Let alone name yourself,Why are you still employed at carenne school.
Mary,
I appreciate you taking the time to comment on my site. It is useful to have an opposing view to the majority who can speak about things in a rational and civilised nature. I do have concerns that you doing so could be seen as breaching the DET's Code of Conduct which has been well cited by the Carenne Klan against whistleblowers and that this could be used against you if they decide to use you as a scapegoat.
You may like to believe that there is only one whistleblower at Carenne but I can assure you there are far more than that. These are people who are concerned about what is happening at the school and have been for a number of years. It has only been since my article on Sydney Indymedia about Verity Firth misleading parliament that they have decided to go public with their concerns.
I would think that misconduct, malfeasance and child protection matters are of public political importance but as I am not someone from that side of the Blue Mountains as Carennestrewth politely puts it I do not understand politics out there.
The issue we have is that there is overwhelming evidence supporting the claims yet there is nothing to refute them.
As for your comment that Michael Auld would not threaten another person, the information I have from a very reliable source would indicate otherwise. I believe the claim that this is known to senior department officials. His bullying of parents late last year also makes this comment appear incorrect.
Your claim that Carenne Support has no CEO is clearly false. It is stated here that: During this period Carenne employed between three and four staff. Two or three staff were part-time casual drivers and the other member of staff was Carenne's part-time chief executive officer who was also a speech therapist.
Your knowledge of alleged departmental investigations interests me being someone who isn't an executive member of Carenne Special School staff. I would have thought that the department would keep such information private to protect the reputation of their staff.
The last thing which intrigues me is why you believe that you will be investigated or attacked, it would appear from what has come out on here and Sydney Indymedia that the reverse is true.
Thankyou for taking the time to comment.
Dear anonymous
Mary is not a staff member of Carenne so has not breached DET code of conduct - she clearly stated she is a parent of a student at Carenne
Mary is the book keeper for Carenne Support who is a department contractor.
The KLAN are always paranoid and believe that complaints will be made about them or something will be compromised. Michael told everyone the school's computer system had been hacked and it hadn't, him and Lee then said that the school was bugged and it wasn't. Michael got into people's things and shared them around. Christine and Simone had a whistleblower's email hacked. Seems if you need to be paranoid about anyone it is the KLAN.
I am sure any evidence that was at the school about this has been destroyed, they are good at doing that to protect their own.
All the so called "trouble" and complaints appear to have started when your "whistle blower", no doubt Brian Carter, was dismissed from employment for breaching the employment guidelines.
More harassment of this poor man by the KLAN.
the only person who has people investigated for no reason is SIMONE RUSSELL
Dumpling should be investigated she is the most corrupt person at carenne school I shudder to think what corrupt things she has done in the carenne office,that is why she has become a teachers aid that she is not qualified for and was done underhanded.
Brian Carter did not breach any guidelines every thing was all lies made up by the klan and michael fraud and carennetruth and boat were the ring leaders.I hope brian carter wins his court case against carenne support then sues each person.
Brian Carter will not win anything because he is nothing but a liar, trouble-maker and a bastard. He is going to get what is coming to him I can assure you of that. Everything that has happened to him he deserves and I won't shed a tear about the things that have happened to the bastard. He has made life at Carenne hell for the last year.
You can all keep worshiping and following your "whistleblower" because its only going to get you in trouble. You are nothing but snitches and will be weeded out this year. The process has already begun. Just think about that before continuing with your rot.
Simone shouldn't be investigated, the stupid bitch that keeps posting here who cant even run on time should be.
carennetruth julie should stop you posting on her blog ,you are foul mouth liar and bully.
Carennetruth the only way Brian Carter will be beaten in court is if you and the klan get up in the dock and tell lies,Which i'm sure you will.
Of course they will lie in court! Carole McDiarmid has committed perjury so what difference does it make if one of her foot soldiers does. The SMU obviously couldn't give two hoots!
It's already been mentioned in this string that perjury may have been committed (either that or the person who made the comment is a liar).
As for Lee "I'm not carennetruth's" comments, perhaps when you provide evidence people might start believing you. Just remember my advice about whistleblowers on Sydney Indymedia a while ago.
Why are you allowed to post comment on department business Mary?
if carenne is so clean why did everything have to be changed because of indymedia. things were bought out in public and then changes were made. it has forced you all into action.
if people involved were such good people why are the same names being bought up time and time again. the same people are being accused of things by people who have no connection. explain that! how about sexual harassment of prue by marg? its about time people start acting like adults but it will never happen there! fancy being the bookkeeper and not knowing that the company has a ceo.
honest staff are waiting for the place to be cleaned up and for it to become a nice school once more, right now working at carenne is like being in hell.
Also the way marg and lee run bev down to the ground then nice to her face,now bev is in two minds if she will return this year.These people are disgusting.
I am a contract bookkeeper, not an employee, of Carenne Support Ltd which is a separate entity to Carenne School!
Carenne Support Ltd is a Charity, which like many other charities such as Red Cross etc, runs as a business which has PBI (Public Benevolent Institution) status.
I am not breaching any DET rules. Interestingly though Anonymous said on 28th Jan. "i can tell you as someone who works at carenne who is there day in day out (unlike you)..." Are you breaching guidelines?
Carenne Support does not have a CEO...this can be verified through ASIC. The court records you are are citing refer to an "part time CEO who was also a speech therapist" which obviously referred to a director who was, for a short time, attending to the bookwork and other organisational matters. That person is no longer a director of Carenne Support Ltd.
But of course, like everything else on this site, everything I say will be disputed and jeered by those apposed to my view. And just to be sure you all understand, I speak for myself only.
I am glad someone knows Carenne Support isn't part of Carenne Public School, someone needs to tell Lee that.
The person who is no longer a director was going around school in October 2009 saying that Julie Brown got it all wrong on Indy because she wasn't a director. How come then does the document Julie put here show her as a director until November!!!
I am breaching the department's code of conduct by posting on here but I don't care! It's about time the truth about Carenne comes out. No matter what you say it sounds like you are writing as a representative of Carenne Support.
I most likely speak for Julie as well when I say this but I am glad you are continuing to contribute to this website Mary.
I see that you mention that Carenne Support is a separate entity to Carenne School. I believe that most people would agree but doesn't it mean that the bus appeal for Carenne School which purchased buses for the school which become owned by Carenne Support was probably done incorrectly?
Another question now we have someone who can be civilised about things - the new bus that your principal said was bought for Carenne School by Carenne Support, who is it registered to?
Carenne Support is closely related to Carenne School so your complaint about the buses is a joke just like your mate Brian Carter. Why don't you realize Brian Carter is nothing but a liar, cunt and trouble-maker.
The bus appeal happened 5 years ago and you still going on with rot about it. Get a grip!
Why don't you fuck off and let our good work continue.
To the snitch saying charge the lot of them with fraud it will never happen and you know why, the Bathurst Police all know that the people using this site are nothing more than a joke, are liars and shit. The police know what you bastards are all like and wont do anything against us. You are nothing but SHIT on this site and the sooner you come undone the better, the Police took your beloved Indymedia, this is next. You are S-H-I-T
There was no sexual harassment by Marg on Prue. Prue was the one harassing people sexually, she was trying to have sex with a male teacher (who I wont name for his protection). When this was raised with her she said she claimed harassment. She is nothing but a fucking snitch too.
Carennetruth isnt Lee Churches, Lee is with me right now and isn't on here.
I feel sorry for anyone who works at Carenne having to put up with this. Just read the comments on here.
Lee I hope you are not saying the Police are corrupt. Wasn't it Marg who confronted Prue?
It was Marg
Mary you are going to be employed as the office worker is that contract to.
Where on earth do you get your information from??? I am NOT going to be employed as the office worker!!! I wasnt even approached about it. I have my own business and attend university so why and how would I take on a full time job???
That comment surely proves that people on here are just rumour mongering!!!
Some people are rumour mongering, others are speaking the truth.
The comment about Mary being the new SAM at the school is rubbish. The next SAM at Carenne will be Lynn Collins from district office. She would make a very capable SAM. There is no such thing as a contract office worker and anyone who works in a school would know this.
If you did the job the same as Simone you wouldn't be doing it full-time Mary, she spends most of her time on her mobile phone talking to her husband and kids!
Do you have working with children check clearance Mary?
Michael was a teacher at Lithgow High School and not Lithgow Public. His aide at Lithgow High was Kym.
The story on here about Prue isn't true, Marg accused her of having an affair with Peter and threatened to tell her husband. Michael, Lucy and Lee have all said that Simone told him that there was a relationship between Prue and Peter.
Bullying and scapegoating seems to be the KLAN's favourite tactics, just look at what they did to the teacher who wrote that Carenne Support were lying to parents about a student getting therapy.
Lee is going around saying Terry Neal knew about Blackburn, let's see if she gets up in court in the middle of the month and says it. I bet she doesn't! The department doesn't mind her, Michael and you leaking information do they?
if michael is such a good teacher mary how come someone who works at carenne doesnt want her son in his class?
marg was sexually harassing prue with what she did
The only thing that saved Michael for the last three years was Kym. Most of the parents complained about that teacher/aide combo before and how nothing got done. It will be the same again.
Margaret makes disgusting sexually-related allegations against people all the time. She claimed an aide was involved with the relieving principal, that a teacher and aide were involved and this. With Prue she tried to bribe her after Prue exposed Lee being on Indymedia on her laptop.
marg and lucy are the rumourmongers at carenne.
If this is true Prue should look at taking action against Margaret Rowe.
From what I hear, Carenne Special School sounds like Gossip Girl. Obviously they have too much spare time to be making up rumors about people.
Julie also the teacher they have bought into this ,he has a wife and family as well.These people ars sick.
Carenne sounds like some depraved house of debauchery. They don't mind bringing people into their twisted games, all they care about is ruining people from what we see.
You will admit though that a director/CEO was being paid in the past though wont you?
You are right Libertarian, if Margaret spent more time doing her job instead of making up rumours about staff, parents and students Carenne would be a much happier place.
You would know bev, you haven't been at work this year!
Margaret Rowe is one of the best aides at Carenne how dare you make up this about her.
Margaret is just some groupie.
Margaret very good at swearing.
even at students
I've never ever heard Margaret swear. More bullshit.
Oh nedkelly your lies just keep getting better.
At least this affair was between two adults
Anonymous February 16, 2010 8:37 AM
There was no affair this rumor was made up to get rid of this poor lady when they found out she was posting comments on the net anyone who does gets labeled a Snitch even when its done in the name of speaking out for the kids
Mary are you proud to be associated with people who cover up child sexual abuse?
Mary are you proud to be associated with people who cover up child sexual abuse?
At least this affair was between two adults
Oh nedkelly your lies just keep getting better.
Anonymous February 16, 2010 8:37 AM
There was no affair this rumor was made up to get rid of this poor lady when they found out she was posting comments on the net anyone who does gets labeled a Snitch even when its done in the name of speaking out for the kids
It sounds like they can't do a single thing correct. It's about time they learned that they aren't GOD and can't keep ripping people off.
CHARGE THE LOT OF THEM WITH FRAUD
Who happens to be a director of this organisation which is ripping off the school and the community - the infamous Lee "Carennetruth" Churches!
Even more concerning is Miss Churches being an assistant principal of Carenne when she is too negligent to ensure something as important as this is done.
Of course they will lie in court! Carole McDiarmid has committed perjury so what difference does it make if one of her foot soldiers does. The SMU obviously couldn't give two hoots!
It's already been mentioned in this string that perjury may have been committed (either that or the person who made the comment is a liar).
As for Lee "I'm not carennetruth's" comments, perhaps when you provide evidence people might start believing you. Just remember my advice about whistleblowers on Sydney Indymedia a while ago.
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