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There were many of us that didn't doubt you or Julie keep up the good work guys!!
September 19,2010 11:11PM
Anonymous no we didn't but it took margaret rowe "nedkelly"along time to send the questionaire into libertarian didn't it?
lee churches "carennetruth" Michael Auld "king omertra-omerta"michael%2eauld@det.nsw.edu.au !!!!!!!!
They be shitting themselves right now.
September 19,2010 9;43 PM
Anonymous Said
nedkelly"MARGARET ROWE".
Scan it did you nedkelly "Margaret Rowe"you have already handed it in to Neill Moon you liar.
Thats why i went to get legal advice,The police are in dangerous territory now.They are trying to stop people accessing the blog throuh intimidation.I have sent my questionaire to libertarian,I didn't return the waste of paper so hopefully he can post it here for me.
September 19, 2010 11:11 PM
A lot of us did.
Its called sensationalised journalism, we now have proof he has questionaire, but klan members still feeding site with info.
Notice all klan info posted by libertarian not julie.
September 18,2010 7:47 PM
nedkelly "MARGARET ROWE" Said
Everyone on this site needs to go and get some legal advice.I went to one of the free legal clinics today and was told that the police are overstepping the mark and cant do anything about the blog because it isn't illegal.The solicitor i saw told me it was a civil matter and that i can be sued for defamation but there is nothing criminal about it.
The solicitor said to make a complaint to the police integrity commission about these clowns wasting resources on something that isn't illegal.They said that if they want to make genuine inquires intoallrgation of sex abuse and the other shit that goes on at carenne they already have the information to do so.They are just threatening people to cover up for Scott Russells.
Anonymous 7:33 AM
Who gives a shit who its posted by as long as the ABUSE of innocent children at CARENNE PUBLIC SCHOOL BATHURST is posted you moron !!!!
Anonymous 7:32 AM
Yes nedkelly"MARGARET ROWE" hatho"SIMONE RUSSELL" King omertra and omerta "MICHAEL AULD"michael%2eauld@det.nsw.edu.au All members of the DET staff at CARENNE PUBLIC SCHOOL BATHURST all breaking DET code of contact by contacting a media outlet.
September 20, 2010 7:42 AM
I posted comment at 7.33am, my concern is the children of carenne not the klans staff, which is why I am concerned about how much control the klan actually has, over both the school and this blog. Does that make me a moron or does that make me a concerned citizen of the bathurst community. You tell me.
We need to run a site or give information to a local here in bathurst that knows the school and staff so information can be verified by someone who actually knows the staff at carenne and lives here in bathurst.
Anonymous 8:17 AM
Look at the saviours and they know what is being reported is true but won't stand up to the plate and verify the abuse is happening, So what hope have the innocent children got none.
Anonymous 8:04 AM
The klan run carenne school fullstop.
How do we know this is the real questionnaire, has anyone else got a copy to match up with this one and who was handed questionnaires all klan members or are there saviours with a copy.
this would be all out in the open if the saviours used their real names to report the abuse but they havn't ,have you saviours.
Anonymous 8:51 AM
The staff should whipe their ass with the questionaire,the police can't do jack shit and the staff are only going to lie anyhow.
September 20, 2010 8:52 AM
neither have the klan, and if they did it would be stopped on the spot because their the abusers of carenne and the bathurst community.
Anonymous 8:56 AM
The klan are not going to confess to knowing about the abuse because most of them have committed it or covered it up just like they did the blackburn affair with poor david.
FAITH everyone, the klan will be bought to justice all of them and this site if its been playing both sides off against one another, just to get a story.
How do we know libertarian isnt a klan member, has anyone ever spoken to him in person or via telephone, or is the only communication been to a dodgy email address. A bit suss if you ask me, if he had nothing to hide how come he hasnt been to bathurst to interview staff, community members and parents to get both sides of this story and the truth about carenne and the abuse the children, community members and parents deal with everyday.
Anonymous 9:16 AM
I can't believe Julie and Libertarian are playing both sides off against one another ,These are innocent childrens live's they are playing with if this is the case.
We can only pray and hope you are right for the innocent student's sake,These evil people have to be sacked.This school needs closing down and restaffed from the top down.
Well has anyone met julie or libertarian in person, face to face. My guess is no.
Anonymous 9:40 AM
Who ever libertarian is does not change the fact the abuse is happening at carenne school to these innocent children and it needs to be bought out in the open media and to the public.I have witness this abuse first hand so i know its not lies.This abuse has to be stopped.
September 20, 2010 9:58 AM
Just want the truth about site and julie and libertarian to stand up and be counted like the bathurst community. They should meet with our local community before posting articles for the klan. We all know margaret rowe alias nedkelly is a klan member and simone russell alias hatho is a klan member and they are the ones currently feeding the blog. There has been a lot of people in the bathurst community fighting for the children of carenne including yourself jenny, but what if the site was giving misleading information to keep the story ongoing. Out of all this I have not heard anything about the local community getting together and taking the fight straight to the klan.
And it does matter who julie and libertarian are as at the moment they are putting the fuel on the fire, not putting the fire out.
September 20, 2010 9:58 AM
My one and only concern is for the children of carenne. Which is why when children are involved I am very cautious as to what everyones motives are including this site, the det, carenne school and the local police.
I am a parent myself and reading this blog over the last couple of weeks has raised a few questions about the integrity of this site. I would prefer someone standing beside me in bathurst rather than hiding behind a blog in sydney.
So I take it no one has met julie and libertarian face to face.
September 20, 2010 9:58 AM
OK, how come carennegate is so trusted when no one knows who is running the blog and carennegate are the only ones with insiders leaking information, strange that.
And also we just had a bad fire here in bathurst and there was media from all over the state.
Why isnt mainstream media involved with the serious nature of allegations made, which it should be in the hands of not a blog site of which no one knows their motives, whats in it for carennegate ??????
Are they doing it for the good of the bathurst community or for themselves.
No one knows because no one has sat down with them and asked face to face, anyone can run a blog, carennetruths attempt at a blog is proof of that, and we know what lee churches and the klans motives are and shes the enemy, so please tell me why we dont know carennegates motives and if carennegate has all the proof why havnt they sent what they have to the mainstream media ????????????
Sounds a bit suss to me.
Anonymous 11:35 AM
The saviours have met Julie brown face to face and so has simone russell so she says.
September 20, 2010 12:06 PM
so she says and if so she is a klan member.
September 20, 2010 12:06 PM
None of the saviours I have spoken to have met with julie or libertarian, only email.
Anonymous 12:18 PM Why don't you post under your real name.
Julie Brown met with 4 saviours at the end of 20009 here in bathurst,Just ask jrosenberg "lucy Thornton" She was one of them .
Anonymous 12:15 PM
And simone russell is scott russell wife a nsw police officer ,funny that isn't it ?
so jrosenberg says, the truth will come out
Anonymous 12:51 PM
Yes and sooner then you and a lot of others might expect.
I hope your right the sooner the better
Anonymous 11:35 AM
Because Grant Hatch has stopped it from comming out in the main stream media he works for the DET but he can't stop people reporting to this blog and its got them stuffed ,He has stopped Ray Hadley and Chris Smith and sydney Telegraph from reporting on carenne public school but can't stop the blog ,Its the only avenue the people of bathurst and surronding areas have to bring the abuse and fraud out so far.And we are going no where till it is bought out in the main stream media.
Anonymous 10:44 AM
I'm sure Edward James can confirm Julie Brown is a real human being ring him and ask him,the DET is not denying Edward James exsist because they know well he does.
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September 20, 2010 2:43 PM
I am not doubting edward james, however I do doubt information supplied to this blog and the klan members sending it.
September 20, 2010 2:43 PM
Actually met her in person or email.
September 20, 2010 12:44 PM
Who were the other 3 klan members also.
September 20, 2010 12:44 PM
My reason for bringing attention to the site is, no one knows whos posting comments, it could be klan members posting or saviours posting and articles coming from klan members.
Libertarian give them my ISP, show them who I am.
Anonymous 3:22 PM
Why don't you email Julie Brown and ask her who the other 3 saviours are or ask jrosenberg "lucy Thornton" in person im sure the snake will squell on the other 3 saviours.
September 20, 2010 3:42 PM
What, I would love to meet her or the libertarian in person or a phone number. An email is to informal and proves nothing and when was jrosenberg a saviour ?????
For all we know they were all klan members.
jrosenberg will tell you they have done everything and done nothing.
Reading the posts made by jrosenberg they say a lot but action is required, be alright when they complained to put their name to it.
Anonymous 3:34 Pm
Just post under your real name,Don't worry about the isp
I am always around, I dont take sides only the truth needs to be known. Libertarian can give you my isp because from what I have seen no one uses their name on this blog, except the O'Neills seems they are the only ones with the guts to do so.
September 20, 2010 4:14 PM
Amen. Only the truth shall set them free and the children of carenne and anyone who has suffered any abuse in the making of this story.
So the people of bathurst dont get to meet their saviours.
I am proudly one of the saviours and my identity is well known to those who can be trusted. You might not be aware of it but many people who speak about what happens in the DET are bullied and harassed and even have the Police examining their every move. This questionnaire proves that the Police are more interested in those of us who are doing the right thing than those who aren't.
I have met Julie Brown, almost 12 months ago here in Bathurst. I have never met or spoken with Joel but can confirm what he says is true.
I like reading how you attack the two people who have done more for the cause than anyone else. Without this blog, most of the issues at Carenne would still be unnoticed.
September 20, 2010 4:14 PM
Perhaps because they have nothing to loose. Everyone knows that other people have been beaten into submission by using their names on this blog
Click on one of the documents so you get a large view of it, save it to your desktop then right click on it, select properties and then details and you will see the name of the moron who created it.
Well done OMERTA for sending this in you dumb fuck!
Wow, such great work on the document. Who created it? They can't spell "blog". Perhaps a spelling lesson is required.
September 20,2010
savecarenne 9:15 PM
The O'Neills care what happens to to these innocent children and you four have nothing to lose that is a excuse ,What did you go to Julie Brown in the first place if you are not willing to stand up and speak the truth under your real names ,you are four cowards who are guilty of protecting the klan by not reporting this child abuse useing your real names.
September 20, 2010 9:51 PM
savecarenne
Having a child in that school and seeing first hand what happens when you question them I agree with you putting your name to this blog (as much as I love it)is like signing a death warrant because they only want the loose lips not the abusers!!
September 20, 2010 9:47 PM
Bullshit.
September 21, 2010 7:01 AM
Good job jenny, I feel the same way about libertarian. No probs with julie atleast she reports the facts.
Anonymous 7:17 AM
The 4 saviours havn't got children at carenne school i can see why a parent might not use their real names ,They are protecting their children but the saviours are only protecting their wallets ,They are putting their jobs before stopping the abuse of these innocent students.
September 21, 2010 7:41 AM
Agreed, but the klan members are doing the same, that is why I dont take sides one side is as bad as the other at the moment.
September 21, 2010 7:41 AM
They are more concerned with themselves than the children.
September 20, 2010 9:47 PM
Well thats news to me, I am a saviour also and I only know you as savecarenne, so come on SAVE CARENNE. My job will be to save the children before its too late.
SEA Snitch was more helpful.
If we had more staff standing with parents as a team for the children of carenne then you can call yourself a saviour.
The 95% of the staff are the klan members and are committing the abuse and fraud,along with carenne support.
September 20, 2010 9:47 PM
Where to start, as usual people on this blog attack blindly.
My argument is I am very close to this, I have had contact with libertarian and I can tell you from personal experience he is a person who cannot be trusted and for julie have not met or dealt with her, but if you read the blog her articles are more in touch and are not supplied by klan members, julie cares I believe, I want to know what libertarians motives are.
So now does that put my comments into better perspective for you.
Isnt it amazing a couple of weeks ago people were praising me, now I have concerns about information on the blog and whos supplying it, I am now a turd. You wonder why people dont use their real names and are upset when you look at this situation at carenne and there is no end in sight.
I will keep fighting for the truth to come out. And everyone will be held accountable.
The children need, must come first, everything else is second place.
Libertarian you should know who I am now.
Expose me libertarian because I will be doing everything in my power to expose you and the corruption at carenne.
If I have to run as an outsider so be it, I am sick of playing games.
Everyones out on their own anyway.
September 21, 2010 9:24 AM
What has he done that has ticked you off so much?Why are you playing mental mind games if you want to be known name yourself!
September 21, 2010 12:34 AM
More evidence for my cause, if this was sent to libertarian by auld, I hope you were sent a second copy to match with or did you just post it to shut people up.
Because if auld did send this questionnaire, whos to say its the real questionnaire, but a fabrication made up by a klan member.
September 21, 2010 9:36 AM
All in good time.
I want facts not fiction, and if he names me, you will know who I am.
And as to what he has done to tick me off, thats between us.
Libertarian you have my isp, show your public.
September 21, 2010 8:21 AM
I have my suspicions on who you may be and its one of three people. I am not about to name you, I am more than happy to voice your concerns about me on here.
I have always been a controversial figure both on Sydney Indymedia and on here. I don't mind having enemies on either side of the camp. I do the best I can and what I think is right, nothing more, nothing less. I know that some people are annoyed at that and I know that some people who formerly supported me do no longer but so be it. They still read what I have to say and contribute to the blog so there is something there.
September 21, 2010 1:02 PM
Controversial is one way of putting it. Its your way or no way that sounds right though.
September 21, 2010 1:30 PM
He is a deadshit, he has an attitude like he is god on this blog. He most probably is Peter Richards like the KLAN say, my son is in his class and he is a complete deadshit too.
September 21, 2010 2:00 PM
The truth will come out and I hope and pray that its not dragged on forever because of a story.
Theres no story when the childrens welfare and safety is involved.
September 21, 2010 1:02 PM
So your putting parents offside now, thats not very helpful for the cause is it. The more parents and community members that stand up the better thats what you have said, why would you shut them down.
Which leads me to my question which you conveniently dodged earlier, what are your motives ????????
I can tell you my motive, the abuse of innocent children at carenne, bringing the ones doing it down and thats all the motivation I need.
Can someone, please send another copy of the questionnaire to libertarian so he has got something to match this one against so we know its legit.
Trust is earned, not given.
I think its time nedkelly,hatho,jrosenberg,omerta were outed for who they really are not whistle blowers but klan members who are playing on both sides.
September 21, 2010 4:00 PM
Try telling that to libertarian.
September 21, 2010 4:00 PM
So why arent they being exposed, they have contact with libertarian hes publishing their stories.
Thats right if he exposes them there would be no more story.
Thats your motive libertarian the story, stuff anyone else. The story comes first.
Who cares who gets hurt along the way, as long as you get your story thats all that counts.
September 21, 2010 4:00 PM
Great sources of information, if your a klan member.
September 21, 2010 4:00 PM
Who knows what to believe after reading the blog over the last couple of days. As long as lee and the klan are removed from the school and the children dont have to cop their abuse anymore.
September 21, 2010 4:46 PM
Believe, the klan and their supporters days are numbered.
What does Julie Brown think does nedkelly,hatho,jrosenberg,omerta all need outing Julie its your blog ,What do you think about these whistle blowers who are klan members supply information to libetarian and playing both sides of the coin.
Interesting, I hope hes trying to catch them out.
September 21, 2010 5:03 PM
We will see, time will tell which way the coin falls, just be careful who you trust.
lee carennetruth churches have they finally put you in bloomefield for evaluation been a bit quiet lately.
September 21, 2010 2:33 PM
That motivation won't be helping you when the Police are on your doorstep.
September 21, 2010 2:33 PM
That motivation won't be helping you when the Police are on your doorstep.
Anonymous 5:17 PM
Hopefully the det has caught up with her and are investigating her and her friends and then they will be sacked and charged for defamation.harrassment,and bullying of innocent students ,parents,staff.
hatho 7:05 PM" Simone Russell"
The Police and DET and the NSW ombudsman will be on your door step before any of us i can assure you of that.
September 21, 2010 7:05 PM
hatho you are a delusional dumpling arent you, the lights will be flashing out the front of your place before mine. Sorry dumpling, thats a fact.
September 21, 2010 7:35 PM
bye hatho, go tell your mates in the klan it will all be over soon with most of the staff of carenne looking up out of the gutter.
or out of bars, which would be my best guess.
September 21, 2010 7:42 PM
What a joke you are, the charges against Lee, Terry and Neil were dropped what makes you think that anyone else would do anything to us? You are an imbecile with no idea. The DPP messed the charges up and we got away with it.
September 21, 2010 7:35 PM
You are a cocky one aren't you. I can tell who you are just by your writing style and attitude. You are a joke and that is why you are not being taken seriously, nobody believes a thing that comes out of your mouth.
September 21, 2010 7:07 PM
Yes Jenny, the police just let me out of the klink. That's where you are headed idiot.
Blogger carennetruth said...
September 21, 2010 7:42 PM
What a joke you are, the charges against Lee, Terry and Neil were dropped what makes you think that anyone else would do anything to us? You are an imbecile with no idea. The DPP messed the charges up and we got away with it.
September 21, 2010 9:46 PM
September 21, 2010 9:47 PM
You are a fine one to call somebody else cocky listen to the dribble that comes out of your mouth Lee!!
September 21, 2010 9:47 PM
Arent you the smart one, you have no idea lee, just like your grip of reality, gone.
September 21, 2010 9:51 PM
Guess again, idiot. Your losing it lee the smarts must have left you years ago.
September 21, 2010 9:47 PM
Lee you will never know. Just keep drawing straws.
Ask Hatho, she seems to know it all just like you.
Lee Churches posted Under Carennetruth on September 21,2010
9:46 PM
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September 21,2010
"hatho"Simone Russell Posted At
7:04 PM
7:05 PM
I can confirm that the questionnaire posted here is similar to other ones I have been provided. The covering letter is the same, however the second page is in a different order.
You can tell by reading this that the police are going after those who are bringing this out in the open and not those perpetrating the abuse of these children.
Lee Churches posted Under Carennetruth on September 21,2010
9:46 PM
9:47 PM
9:51 PM
September 21, 2010 9:51 PM
Guess again, idiot. Your losing it lee the smarts must have left you years ago.
Blogger carennetruth said...
September 21, 2010 7:42 PM
What a joke you are, the charges against Lee, Terry and Neil were dropped what makes you think that anyone else would do anything to us? You are an imbecile with no idea. The DPP messed the charges up and we got away with it.
September 21, 2010 9:46 PM
or out of bars, which would be my best guess.
September 21, 2010 7:42 PM
What a joke you are, the charges against Lee, Terry and Neil were dropped what makes you think that anyone else would do anything to us? You are an imbecile with no idea. The DPP messed the charges up and we got away with it.
The 95% of the staff are the klan members and are committing the abuse and fraud,along with carenne support.
September 21, 2010 7:41 AM
They are more concerned with themselves than the children.
Anonymous 7:17 AM
The 4 saviours havn't got children at carenne school i can see why a parent might not use their real names ,They are protecting their children but the saviours are only protecting their wallets ,They are putting their jobs before stopping the abuse of these innocent students.
September 20, 2010 9:47 PM
Bullshit.
Wow, such great work on the document. Who created it? They can't spell "blog". Perhaps a spelling lesson is required.
Click on one of the documents so you get a large view of it, save it to your desktop then right click on it, select properties and then details and you will see the name of the moron who created it.
I can confirm that the questionnaire posted here is similar to other ones I have been provided. The covering letter is the same, however the second page is in a different order.
Anonymous 3:34 Pm
Just post under your real name,Don't worry about the isp
Anonymous 3:22 PM
Why don't you email Julie Brown and ask her who the other 3 saviours are or ask jrosenberg "lucy Thornton" in person im sure the snake will squell on the other 3 saviours.
September 20, 2010 2:43 PM
Actually met her in person or email.
Anonymous 12:18 PM Why don't you post under your real name.
Julie Brown met with 4 saviours at the end of 20009 here in bathurst,Just ask jrosenberg "lucy Thornton" She was one of them .
Anonymous 12:15 PM
And simone russell is scott russell wife a nsw police officer ,funny that isn't it ?
September 20, 2010 12:06 PM
so she says and if so she is a klan member.
September 20, 2010 9:58 AM
OK, how come carennegate is so trusted when no one knows who is running the blog and carennegate are the only ones with insiders leaking information, strange that.
And also we just had a bad fire here in bathurst and there was media from all over the state.
Why isnt mainstream media involved with the serious nature of allegations made, which it should be in the hands of not a blog site of which no one knows their motives, whats in it for carennegate ??????
Are they doing it for the good of the bathurst community or for themselves.
No one knows because no one has sat down with them and asked face to face, anyone can run a blog, carennetruths attempt at a blog is proof of that, and we know what lee churches and the klans motives are and shes the enemy, so please tell me why we dont know carennegates motives and if carennegate has all the proof why havnt they sent what they have to the mainstream media ????????????
Sounds a bit suss to me.
September 20, 2010 9:58 AM
My one and only concern is for the children of carenne. Which is why when children are involved I am very cautious as to what everyones motives are including this site, the det, carenne school and the local police.
Well has anyone met julie or libertarian in person, face to face. My guess is no.
Anonymous 8:56 AM
The klan are not going to confess to knowing about the abuse because most of them have committed it or covered it up just like they did the blackburn affair with poor david.
Anonymous 8:51 AM
The staff should whipe their ass with the questionaire,the police can't do jack shit and the staff are only going to lie anyhow.
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